“What we’re trying to do is not about winning, it’s about losing, and it’s about losing this burden of having to make it, to be rich, to be comfortable, to be seen, to be famous, to be followed, to be friended, to be known. We don’t need all that because it’s an upside down world and the winners are the losers. And what we lose is the delusion and suffering that we are here on Earth for ourselves. That is such a delusion, you know. Takers suffer always.”
– Paul Hawken
About the speaker:
Paul Hawken (born February 8, 1946, in California) is an environmentalist, entrepreneur, and author. Hawken had a Swedish grandmother and a Scottish grandfather with a farm. His father worked at UC Berkeley. As a teenager, he “roam[ed] the peaks of the Sierra Nevada, the dry eastern valleys that sprawl down to Mono Lake, and the White Mountain area above Owens Valley.”He received no formal degrees but attended UC Berkeley and San Francisco State University. Hawken worked in the Civil Rights Movement. He currently lives in or near Sausalito, California, and is a neighbor of Stewart Brand.
Series Theme Music: “Soiridh Leis” from the CD Journey Between by Baka Beyond. Used with permission from Hannibal Records, a Rykodisc label; www.rykodisc.com
“Wild, Wild East” by Colin Farish from the album CURIOUS SPECIES; Winds of the Muse Productions CFECD0003; 1994; Contact: www.colinfarish.com